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Invitation to Netoric's Tuesday Cafe Discussion, 8/27/96 (fwd)



I routinely forward Tuesday Cafe invites, but this week I reckon it looks 
a bit self-serving for it to come from me. But perhaps I can mitigate that 
effect some by pointing out that just behind Tari's apparently glowing 
introduction is a courteous challenge. In response to Jeff Galin's 
question to Rhetnt-L, she's asking for some concreteness, some evidence 
to support and give shape to the sometimes wild rantings I've been guilty 
of promulgating for several years. In a sense, this is like a 
dissertation defense, and since at the rate I'm going it may be the 
closest I'll ever come to one, I'm going to approach it in that
spirit.

--Eric

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:22:21 -0500
From: Tari Fanderclai <tari@ucet.UFL.edu>

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            Please come to Netoric's Tuesday Cafe Discussion
                                   for
                             August 27, 1996                          
                              8:00 p.m. EDT
                 in Netoric's Tuesday Cafe on MediaMOO

                                 Topic:

                  How Does That Crump Guy Practice What
                       We Love to Hear Him Preach?

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         connect guest OR connect your character if you have one
                             @go Tuesday 
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      You all know Eric Crump.  He's that guy who goes around saying,
          "NO MORE GRADES--ONLY AUTHENTIC LEARNING FROM NOW ON."
      And he has this awesome philosophy about grades and learning
      and the purpose of education to go with it, which he's shared 
      with us frequently.  And boy oh boy, do a lot of us eat it up.  
      Right from the serving bowl.  With the big spoon.  While cheering 
      wildly, with our mouths full.

      But the other day, over on the Rhetnet list, in the midst of the
      philosophizing and cheering and so on, Jeff Galin broke in to
      say something like, "Hey, wait a minute, Eric--it just can't be
      as easy as you make it sound to stop giving grades and making
      traditional assignments and generally following the rules and
      the accepted practices."  And that got us thinking: we know a
      lot about Eric's theories and the way they COULD work in ideal
      conditions.  But we've forgotten to ask him an important 
      question:  How the heck does he manage to carry out his ideas
      in the real world we all have to live in?  What REALLY happens
      in the Crumpean Classroom?

      So we asked Eric to come to the Tuesday Cafe and give us the
      real story, with details from classes he's taught recently.
      As background for the discussion, Eric offers the following
      materials, some from his classes and some giving more general
      insight into his philosophy and theory:
             
      Eric's fall course:
         http://www.missouri.edu/~wleric/e20.html
      Eric's winter course:
         http://www.missouri.edu/~wleric/e161/
      Eric's online course for next semester (didn't get enough 
      enrollment to make this fall):
         http://www.missouri.edu/~wleric/exparg/
      The Schoolgame Thread from Rhetnet:
         http://www.missouri.edu/~rhetnet/schoolgame/
      The 'Authority' proposal discussion for CCCC97:
         http://www.umd.umich.edu/HyperNews/get/cccc97/proplink.html

     Have a look at those, and come to the cafe with your questions
     for Eric!

     See you at the cafe!

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